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Post by wygolvillage on Feb 26, 2023 20:23:55 GMT -5
See title.
Mine is the headcanon/AU that Albus was a Lisa reincarnation, part of that larger reincarnation cycle with Elisabetha and possibly Mina
-Lisa and Albus have some similar visual traits (hair, eyes)
-Lisa's passion for being a doctor and healing others/Albus being a researcher for what he sees as the good of mankind
-"If my death can save others I gladly surrender my life"/Albus giving up his life to save Shanoa
-Albus getting possessed by Dracula, and the general involvement of Dracula in Ecclesia's story, could then be read as kind of a reflection of how Dracula is always entangled in the lives of those in the reincarnation cycle... Possessing Albus just like he sought to possess the memory of Lisa, to give her a vengeance she never wanted- similarly he forces Albus to attack the one person he would have never wanted to hurt.
It's definitely not something I see as an intended reading but it is definitely a lot of fun to think about.
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Post by richterbelmont on Feb 26, 2023 20:33:44 GMT -5
much better than making every possible love interest a lisa reincarnation lol /no shade
mine is the one where arikado is a reincarnation of alucard similar to soma, and that alucard dies eventually. the difference between him and soma, though, would be that arikado fully accepts and embodies the reincarnation (basically Becoming alucard) in contrast to soma who has to resist it. i dont claim to be an aria expert so dont tear me to shreds- but on the other side with alucard dying, it does depend on my headcanon about their physiology as a dhampir. basically, if alucard were to have stayed sleeping, they could stay alive forever. but being awake and alive, sleeping regularly, eating food, being mentally stimulated, their body can transition from being vampire-like (at the start of sotn), to more human-like. which causes aging as well, and their vessel is worn down over time (yknow, like a human). i might make a dedicated post about this at some point
in terms of who arikado was before, i havent expanded on that since this Is REALLY out there but i think its a good parallel to soma (like i mentioned), because alucards morals are certainly worth replicating as opposed to dracula whos are obviously not lol
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Post by eclipseoffangs on Feb 26, 2023 20:36:03 GMT -5
Annette and Albus are van Helsings. i dont have much basis for these but i like them :)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2023 20:41:34 GMT -5
much better than making every possible love interest a lisa reincarnation lol /no shade mine is the one where arikado is a reincarnation of alucard similar to soma, and that alucard dies eventually. the difference between him and soma, though, would be that arikado fully accepts and embodies the reincarnation (basically Becoming alucard) in contrast to soma who has to resist it. i dont claim to be an aria expert so dont tear me to shreds- but on the other side with alucard dying, it does depend on my headcanon about their physiology as a dhampir. basically, if alucard were to have stayed sleeping, they could stay alive forever. but being awake and alive, sleeping regularly, eating food, being mentally stimulated, their body can transition from being vampire-like (at the start of sotn), to more human-like. which causes aging as well, and their vessel is worn down over time (yknow, like a human). i might make a dedicated post about this at some point in terms of who arikado was before, i havent expanded on that since this Is REALLY out there but i think its a good parallel to soma (like i mentioned), because alucards morals are certainly worth replicating as opposed to dracula whos are obviously not lol b- but in dawn of sorrow julius mode arikado drops the disguise and returns to being alucard when soma becomes the dark lord.............
there's no room for interpretation, arikado is alucard, the very same one who has been alive since the 15th century.
it would make for an interesting au, though.
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Post by eclipseoffangs on Feb 26, 2023 20:45:15 GMT -5
b- but in dawn of sorrow julius mode arikado drops the disguise and returns to being alucard when soma becomes the dark lord............. there's no room for interpretation, arikado is alucard, the very same one who has been alive since the 15th century. it would make for an interesting au, though.
well, i mean... this IS a headcanon. like, its fine if it doesnt 100% adhere to canon. plus, julius mode is dubiously canon anyways
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Post by richterbelmont on Feb 26, 2023 20:45:29 GMT -5
much better than making every possible love interest a lisa reincarnation lol /no shade mine is the one where arikado is a reincarnation of alucard similar to soma, and that alucard dies eventually. the difference between him and soma, though, would be that arikado fully accepts and embodies the reincarnation (basically Becoming alucard) in contrast to soma who has to resist it. i dont claim to be an aria expert so dont tear me to shreds- but on the other side with alucard dying, it does depend on my headcanon about their physiology as a dhampir. basically, if alucard were to have stayed sleeping, they could stay alive forever. but being awake and alive, sleeping regularly, eating food, being mentally stimulated, their body can transition from being vampire-like (at the start of sotn), to more human-like. which causes aging as well, and their vessel is worn down over time (yknow, like a human). i might make a dedicated post about this at some point in terms of who arikado was before, i havent expanded on that since this Is REALLY out there but i think its a good parallel to soma (like i mentioned), because alucards morals are certainly worth replicating as opposed to dracula whos are obviously not lol b- but in dawn of sorrow julius mode arikado drops the disguise and returns to being alucard when soma becomes the dark lord.............
there's no room for interpretation, arikado is alucard, the very same one who has been alive since the 15th century.
it would make for an interesting au, though.
lol i know about this, and it still would fit, as to arikado alucard is who he truly is. it would still be dropping a disguise (i find it interesting to interpret something literal as being metaphorical)
i was also never trying to say that this was the case in canon, i guess i should have specified that its an au/divergent canon
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Post by wygolvillage on Feb 26, 2023 20:46:16 GMT -5
Yeah, be nice to other's interpretations even if they're not canon- this is the "wild out there theories" thread after all :P
Edit: also I super-duper love the idea of interpreting the literal as metaphorical considering that's how I interpret the entirety of my favorite movie lol
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Post by draculaura on Feb 26, 2023 20:48:33 GMT -5
Arikado has a secret side gig as a well respected Vampire Hunter D doujin artist who sells his work at Comiket and also takes furry commissions. Thank you for your time.
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Post by biofreak659 on Feb 26, 2023 22:57:45 GMT -5
Ah, my 'Dracula and Mathias' are different people AU.
Mathias, the former crusader knight from 1195, turned Vlad Dracula III into a vampire, and like how Mathias betrayed Walter and used Leon to kill him, Dracula betrayed Mathias and used Sonia to kill him.
Both Leon and Sonia are the 'first Belmont'.
I've also got some complex head canons about Soma's parents and such, but that's actually the subject of a wip fanfic, so I'll save that for later
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Post by mahoshojo on Feb 26, 2023 23:03:18 GMT -5
It's not really that out there on its own I guess (or even among some of the people posting here), just by comparison to how the larger fandom tends to treat it, but I think Lisa eventually grew pretty uncomfortable in her relationship with Dracula in the years leading up to her death. Like realizing how, no matter how much she might legitimately love him, his feelings toward her could easily lead to him taking his anger out on others if something were to happen to her. Which of course ended up being correct, though I'd want to hope maybe she sadly had enough faith that he wouldn't direct that anger toward Alucard. Guess I'm imagining a sort of possessiveness etc. that she might have been able to pick up on even then, or possibly him threatening others who'd supposedly wronged her in ways that she managed to talk him out of at the time. There might even be some angle of guilt that influenced her not resisting her execution, like she feels Dracula might lash out either way and she doesn't want these people's blood on her hands, but IDK if that part's a little much. I hesitate to call it "abusive" exactly since it might give off the wrong impression, as I don't think he ever directed this anger toward her during her lifetime, but I definitely think there might have been some of the same vibes/emotions as someone caught in a relationship they feel they can't escape.
Also I try to reconcile the jokey angle of Maria being one of the strongest characters in the series/enjoying fighting vampires with the bizarrely dark backstory DXC ended up giving her (Shaft killing her parents just before Rondo) through seeing her as having this really strong sense of justice that in practice manifests as pretty much a desire for vengeance. Like even as a kid she's carrying all this righteous anger and hurt that I think maybe leads to her enjoying killing monsters etc. more than maybe an average Belmont would, the kind of thing that under different circumstances could easily have been twisted to a darker place, ex. if she'd been possessed instead of Richter in SOTN. Within the actual timeline I see it as the kind of thing that makes Richter's recovery after SOTN difficult for everyone involved, like his guilt or feelings of inadequacy are a problem she can't just solve by killing someone, or solve at all, which might be kind of difficult to take for someone who's often the strongest in the room and used to brute forcing her problems.
For one that's not that serious: Yoko drags Arikado with her to weird theme bars across Japan every weekend; Arikado secretly enjoys it even if he tries to downplay it since he really connects with Yoko's cynical/vaguely depressed Gen Alpha vibes. Also he has a shitty apartment because to him living like a "normal human" implies doing everything the difficult way. The apartment thing really shouldn't be that out there but GoS has him live in like this haunted mansion, so
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Post by Chains of Eternity on Feb 27, 2023 0:05:05 GMT -5
Bringing in some castlevania 64 swag: The reason why Rosa resisted the vampire curse for so is thanks to Camilla Fernandez; they met in the castle (or knew eachother before it) both human but recently bitten or captured (idk) and Cam decided to use her remaining power to protect Rosa's soul at the cost of her own. Idk something something tragic lesbians
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Post by leonbelmont on Feb 27, 2023 1:48:44 GMT -5
hmmhmm. What ARE my out there theories and headcanons I know I have them... Actually I feel like me taking the firm stance of "Leon is glad his parents are dead" is something that would feel wildly out of left field for him but. I feel it so strongly. Nice break from sad orphan who misses their parents a lot. I know I picked up part of this from a tumblr post but Soma I think was already trilingual (English/Spanish/Japanese) but after being awakened as Dracula he can speak in any language Dracula knew except he. Doesn't really process that he's doing that? Like if you picked up Leon and put him in the present day Soma could talk to him 0 problem, but he'd just take it as. oh huh cool that this guy can speak modern languages despite being from the 1090s. Weird, but I guess fate was kind to him! At some point he unlocked his kin memories of being Alucard's dad and in every conversation they've had alone since he keeps going into 1400s Romanian and Arikado is baffled but assumes Soma is aware and goes with it. I go back and forth on Mina as part of the reincarnation cycle but I think that the best way to do it is to be a little funny about it. They are watching FFC Dracula and Soma is like [dryly] wow I can't believe Mina is the reincarnation of Dracula's with Elizabeta and Mina is like Just Like In Real Life! and there's this whole moment where Soma is like. what? and Mina is like wait you didn't know?
Similarly I want to hope that Dracula Daily is alive in Soma's time and he signed up for it and has actually read the book. And in the very early days he was like wow getting some weird kinfeels from Dracula... before checking the tags and going oh whoa nope! burying those deep away! and never revisiting that thought in his head. In a twist of dramatic irony I think he's simultaneously very vocally staunchly against any sort of adaptation trying to push Dracula/Mina Harker nee Murray, but also thinks of Mina (Dracula books) as his absolute favorite character.
I think "Rinaldo's daughter was similar in age/personality to Leon" and "Rinaldo's daughter was starved into bloodfrenzy by Walter before being set back on her home; she could have been saved and Sara could have been saved and not all vampires are evil Rinaldo is just a traumatized old man" are probably out there, actually,
I have a lot of thoughts too around Leon and Sonia and magic and subweapons and reconciling Sonia back into the timeline even if Trevor stays the first Belmont to face Dracula, and ultimately my thoughts are... -any subweapons from LOI resembling the modern selection are solely for the Castlevania Gameplay Experience, and not things Leon himself had or used, at least not to the scale of later descendants -prior to Sonia the Belmonts relied on the whip and the gauntlet, but the gauntlet wasn't always the most reliable - it could store magic, yes, but if you had no source to get more and used it all up then tough luck! It also wasn't always necessarily magic that would be super effective against vampires and other creatures of the night, and at that point the Belmonts had no magic ancestors or anything that could make using magic easier -Sonia ends up losing it in a fight and is like. oh fuck. this treasure of my family is gone, -But she has bigger fish to fry, there's a vampire trying to shoulder his way into the territory, she has to beat him! -And this leads to the subweapon quest from her game, except she can like. Actually use them. Where along the way with her resourcefulness she ends up finding things that are stronger and more consistent against creatures of the night, and this knowledge is passed down (and sometimes expanded upon) through the generations.
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Post by trevorbelmont on Feb 28, 2023 21:20:18 GMT -5
i dunno how outlandish any of this actually is but uhhh
- i think trevor was being influenced by the curse in curse of darkness, and thats why hes so cruel to hector at first and unusually passionate about slaying isaac. despite his knowledge of the forgemasters, trevor doesnt know their names at first, nor how to differentiate between them, so i think his info comes from either sypha (church worker) or alucard (alucard). this means he wouldn't have personal experience of hectors crimes as one of draculas generals to be wary of him for, and ALSO, hed have *no reason* to be so weirdly obsessed with taking out isaac himself, when he doesnt even know isaac personally and is also particularly down to take on hosts of weird allies in his bitchkilling quests (yet he specifically denies hectors help, and outright PRESENCE, for this weird reason). the curse was playing him like a fiddle just a bit yk? accentuating the worst parts of his personality and suuuch. kinda reminds you of sotn richter (fun fact: i like to associate certain colours with certain belmonts based on if the vampire killer has a funky colour in their games. purple for leon, and... green for trevor, whose whip glows like a fucking lightsaber when you fight him. *green,* huh?)
- i think its really funny that simon has bright red hair and yellow kojima evil eyes. who else do we know of with those features? ah, yeah, walter! why is this the case? idk i just wanted to bring it up. im not saying leon fucked that vampire but i meaaan (yes i know the timeframe is nonexistent shh)
- lydie can use a gun and she can use a gun well, because i say so
- if alucard spends too much time in wolf form or uses wolf form too much itll turn his hair a bit purple. i just think legends alucard purple hair is neat and since he turns into a nonsensical purple dog anyway,
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Post by wygolvillage on Feb 28, 2023 21:24:52 GMT -5
TBH I like the idea of the Belmonts getting kind of effected by the time spent inside the castle and its chaotic energy (especially since there are enemy descriptions that allude to the castle's magic having that kind of effect) and that's part of what gives them a "supernatural" reputation
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Post by eclipseoffangs on Feb 28, 2023 21:38:51 GMT -5
personally. i like to think that red-hair yellow-eye simon is caused by the curse dracula put on him
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Post by yehor on Feb 28, 2023 21:45:42 GMT -5
personally. i like to think that red-hair yellow-eye simon is caused by the curse dracula put on him I ALSO THINK THIS.... the red hair is like so special to me cause red hair has links to vampirism in some various balkan and slavic folklore. I like to pretend Kojima knew what she was doing
I suppose this is a good time for me to segue into mine which I'd forgotten about until you mention it that the curse actually is vampirism -- his blood is holy and fights against it which causes other issues (the unhealed wounds, glowy eyes and red hair, whatever else u want to think of) rather than a typical transformation into the undead
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Post by valmnera on Mar 1, 2023 18:52:10 GMT -5
I have several: Juste is a dhampir, and that's why he takes damage in water. Maxim has the ability to go through walls, and also that he was turning into a vampire when he bit Lydie, fangs and all. During the possession, Richter's body can do some body horror things like rotating his head 180 degrees, being able to crawl up walls/walk on the ceiling, partially morph his face to have sharp teeth/ more than two eyes, etc. y'know, things possessed people do in horror movies.
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Post by wygolvillage on Mar 1, 2023 18:58:58 GMT -5
That's cool! I personally prefer Richter's possession having no real visual differences or indicators. I've always thought that the way Alucard and Maria just thought it was him and the way it does kind of bleed over into being his own personal motivations in addition to Shaft's influence the most interesting part imo
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Post by yehor on Mar 1, 2023 19:28:27 GMT -5
Hmm, I used to be a dhampir Juste fan too... other than the water there's also the fact he's the only other Castlevania protagonist other than Alucard with a game that has the hexagons in the save rooms, which I always found fascinating. The only other young men with white hair in the series designed by Kojima (so not counting Nathan) have some tie to vampirism or some sort of necromancy (devil forging, Soma's "kind of both" position, Joachim).
Functionally I'm pretty sure all of this is just a result of Juste being the first Belmont to be made after SOTN, so he's a bit of a kindred soul to Alucard, regardless of if he actually is a dhampir or not, but it is fun.
Nowadays I just flip around whichever I believe for the sake of whatever's necessary in the story I'm telling at that moment lol
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Post by richterbelmont on Mar 1, 2023 19:49:28 GMT -5
ive got this theory that belmont's innate power actually comes from a vampire who integrated into their bloodline in secret.. and that the belmonts power being "holy" is an idea invented by the church (but that it does oppose dracula's brand of "dark magic")
i like it because of the dramatic irony
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